Black Metal

[Joe]

*Cough* ... Sorry lads.

[aonghus]

you are a complete tool, it has a lot more to offer than most other subcultural music, ideologically and musically. but then i doubt you know anything about it asides from mainstream shite it's spawned.
theres actually a deadly ukranian band called hate forest that are worth checking out.
end rant.

[Joe]

fuck black metal, dont worry mate, not tryn to prove myself or anythin but no, not at all, ive heard the "real" homegrown norweigan tripe

[martin]

you are a complete tool

[Joe]

fuck the entire genre, i really am on a violently obsessive buzz over all of which I hate

[Shane]

Just look at Mayhem.

[Joe]

i quote...

"Mayhem are the best band in the world"
- the singer who didnt shoot himself.

black metal is for silly cunts

[Shane]

I was going to post that album cover,but its fucking horrible.

[Joe]

dont theyre sick circus animal geekboxes

[xGlennx]

Hate Forrest is my cousin.

[EyesNeverSteve]

HAHAHA

[xSkx]

amazing , im into a bit of black metal, just the sound to be honest , my bro is a proper black metaller , some of it is pure muck though.

[nelly]

you are a complete tool, it has a lot more to offer than most other subcultural music, ideologically and musically. but then i doubt you know anything about it asides from mainstream shite it's spawned.
theres actually a deadly ukranian band called hate forest that are worth checking out.
end rant.

I'm actually genuinely interested in the ideology behind black metal? Is there a message behind the lyrics because most black metal bands lyrics I've read have been pretty cryptic and I haven't been able to read past the face value of them. But no I definitely wouldn't say its a bullshit genre at all.

[Joe]

ok, just been readin the thread and as much as i despise black metal in its entirety, rippin on a whole genre is queeeR! everyone to their own yo!

[ianthefox]

There's a fair bit of ropey shit associated with black metal isn't there?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eOTIRowxnYA

class interview ha

[Andy]

You are complete set of tools.

[irrelevant dave]

Black metal is awesome, i only know a few bands though.

[kev-lefty]

lads watch the black metal documentary its fairly interesting. it like goes into where it all came from and goes into all the church burnings and of course the mayhem story.....

[xSkx]

alot of peoples fascination with it is its notoriety and because its so evil and frowned upon, theres alot of different ideals to it which im not into at all. but shit like emperor, dark throne, Some burzum, mercyfull fate , some of ishann's stuff , satyricon's early stuff, Sigh and of Course Immortal is good shit though.

[DERRY]

....*sigh*

[aonghus]

www.nsbm.com
ah no but really...ideologically interesting things are stuff about returning to older values,wanting a return to something more meaningful than a profit making basse society,holding on to your national identity, nietzschean philosophy about individual strength and character,even some bands have whole bases in enviromentalism and stuff like that.
not to mention that asides from all the metal hammer/terrorizer crap its firmly rooted in the underground,moreso than any other type of metal, with some amazing zines and labels done by people who actually really care about it as an art form.

don't think emperor,immortal, or maniac-period mayhem is any indicator of what this stuff is actually about. most very early 90s norwegian stuff gives you some sort of snapshot about what its about, but its never been confined to norway,sweden or finland, even since its inception, plenty of early bands in canada, brazil etc etc etc

[xSkx]

Sigh.

[kev-lefty]

Zzzzzzzzz

[BeniGoat]

http://noakkatoi.free.fr/gifsdulundi/16_immortal.gif

Black Metal Sendspace thread on the B9er (http://www.b9board.com/viewtopic.php?t=391924)

Not my thing musically, but I felt like being nice.

[XMurderTheSonsOfBitchesX]

Poland is full of NSBM shit.. ;/ but they're such a mongos nobody give a damn bout.

but there are some good BM bands like ABLAZE MY SORROW, THE BREATHING PROCESS (they're on Ferret i think and they're playin in Dublin in march), DarkThrone are ok, just music.
but there are also bands like Asunder, who have their roots into punk and are not some stupid jerks with funny make-up

[xSkx]

NSBM fuck it id listen to it just if it sounds good not the ideals, But Immortal Class band, funny but class. And Dissection amazing.

[XMurderTheSonsOfBitchesX]

damn, i did even forget bout bands like FUNERAL PYRE which i love, THE BREATHING PROCESS, or EMBERS..

[xSkx]

Impurity i think their brazillian i heard while back was into it .

[kev-lefty]

http://noakkatoi.free.fr/gifsdulundi/16_immortal.gif

I just realised ur man is WEARIN A WITCHES HAT HOW EMBARRASSIN

[xSkx]

shit like that it what put me off besides the meanings lol.

[Shane]

Haha.
Just watched a documentary on Gorgoroth's vocalist.
Twas crazy.
He just got out of jail for torturing a man and (supposedly) drinking his blood.

[xSkx]

told ya yas should have went to see them in cork lol.

[kev-lefty]

Im sorry but there was no chance in hell i would have went
this is what happend..
Dude Giving away tickets: (in heavy cork accent) Hey lads any of u wana go see gorgoroth they're savage
Everyone: NO!!!!!!

[xSkx]

your impression was amazing kev.

[kev-lefty]

HAHAHAHAHAH yeh dats coz i like rippin d shit out of cork ppl its class fun like rippin it out of dat stupid guch of a promoter in cork.......grrrrrrrrr

[xSkx]

i remember hearing cork people in the shop asking where they kept the tins of coke.

[kev-lefty]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i can imagine dem sayin "here boys look dey keep the cans in fridges up here in the big shmoke"

[xSkx]

lol they were fairly silly anyway.

[Joe]

why is lefty bannned?!

[xMac Kellx]

Witchcraft.

[Enderrr]

http://noakkatoi.free.fr/gifsdulundi/16_immortal.gif

I just realised ur man is WEARIN A WITCHES HAT HOW EMBARRASSIN

That guys stance on the right is pretty hilarious too.

[aonghus]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i can imagine dem sayin "here boys look dey keep the cans in fridges up here in the big shmoke"

because cork isn't a city?mongo

and strangely enough gorgoroth haven't played down here in cork yet so i don't know how anyone would have been offering tickets on the 'day' of the gig cause it's not till the 24th?


back on topic,dissection-storm of the lights bane playing now,amazing

Poland is full of NSBM shit.. ;/ but they're such a mongos nobody give a damn bout.

but there are some good BM bands like ABLAZE MY SORROW, THE BREATHING PROCESS (they're on Ferret i think and they're playin in Dublin in march), DarkThrone are ok, just music.
but there are also bands like Asunder, who have their roots into punk and are not some stupid jerks with funny make-up
lots of people love graveland.
asunder are amazing,but not black metal!

[martin]

Just downloaded "blood in our wells" by Drudkh, so great. Picked up Casus Luceferi by Watain on Vinyl aswell.

[xGavx]

bane

[Joe]

because cork isn't a city?mongo

and strangely enough gorgoroth haven't played down here in cork yet so i don't know how anyone would have been offering tickets on the 'day' of the gig cause it's not till the 24th?


i was there, it happened ,shut up

[Shane]

Hahahaha.

[Emmett]

Beherit - Drawing Down The Moon
http://rapidshare.com/files/52596902/Beherit_-_1993_-_Drawing_Down_The_Moon.rar

Watain - Casus Luciferi
http://rapidshare.com/files/70957105/Casus_Luciferi.rar.html

Watain - Sworn To The Dark
http://rapidshare.com/files/37185940/Watain_-_2007_-_Sworn_To_The_Dark_by_nidhogg__metalarea.org_.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/37186476/Watain_-_2007_-_Sworn_To_The_Dark_by_nidhogg__metalarea.org_.part2.rar

[aonghus]

stealing watain and beherit records ist not krieg

[Emmett]

Pssht.

[xSkx]

Thought Id bring back this thread.
Arcturus, Dimmu Borgir(older stuff), Dissection,Darkthrone, Tiamat and Abigail Williams(new black metal) ive been listening to alot recently.

[Enderrr]

http://noakkatoi.free.fr/gifsdulundi/16_immortal.gif

This still makes me laugh.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Abigail Williams black metal? Wtf?

Anyways, downloaded a few days ago loads of depressive black metal and most of it is absolutely shit.

Said that, there are a few bands that I like. Obviously Mayhem, Darkthrone, Agalloch and Kampfar. But absolutely love Marduk, 'Panzer Division Marduk' is actually one of my favourite metal albums ever. Then have a thing for Burzum, I don't know what it is but I love both the strictly black metal stuff and the black ambient too (perhaps even more) to the extent that 'Filosofem' is one of my favourite albums ever (and fuck me, it is sounds even more atmospheric and epic on vinyl if that is possible).

Actually tried to get into black metal, but ended up loving sludge as a result of my attempts.

[John]

Im all about the Unblack Metal

[Hel]

http://www.backstagerock.com/sgpics/wicked_wisdom.jpg

[Glenn]

http://www.backstagerock.com/sgpics/wicked_wisdom.jpg

LOL!!!!! They should do a cover of Gettin Jiggi with it!!!

[Bob-NCxHC]

I would pay to see it.

[Hel]

Getting N......

[Liamy]

Listen to Von.

[pentagrimes]

I need to check out all these amazing Black Metal bands listed like Abigail Williams and The Breathing Process.

This thread is incredible.

[nelly]

Haha.

[Emmett]

I need to check out all these amazing Black Metal bands listed like Abigail Williams and The Breathing Process.

This thread is incredible.

I thought you would have heard them already seeing as they started it all!

[xGavx]

Abigail Williams are black metal because they have a keyboard player.

[xSkx]

Abigail williams call themselves black metal, sound like a newer version of emperor and dimmu borgir, so get fucked, i like it. the panzer division marduk album is savage i was listening to it for ages,
at the moment loving, Enthrone Darkness triumphant and Spiritual Black Dimensions, by dimmu borgir.

[irrelevant dave]

Det som engang var.

[Liamy]

Your Burzum longsleeve is amazing Dave.

[xSkx]

Reinkaos by dissection is great aswell, but then again its more death metal at times.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Keyboard ist not krieg.

The only one who will ever get away with using keyboards is Burzum as he is locked up so you gotta give the lad a break.

[pentagrimes]

Abigail williams call themselves black metal, sound like a newer version of emperor and dimmu borgir, so get fucked, i like it. .


Grand, the more people who choose to listen to Abigail Williams over Volahn or whatever, the less I care.
Just reading the early part of this thread, I have a fairly lengthy answer to Nelly's ideology question which I will try and answer later.It'll be long like, so I want to make sure I word it properly.

[xrobbedgex]

I was expecting far more vitriol than that. I'm disappointed.

[pentagrimes]

I was expecting far more vitriol than that. I'm disappointed.

Nah.I generally save my Black Metal related vitriol for Crusties who give out about black metal being for nazis while listening to Burzum.

[AidanBen]

I enjoy some of the symphonic parts, it can be very powerfull. I am very interested in the music of it. But the hob-goblin vocals and everything else to do with it, gets on my tits

[Chris]

That documentary about Gorgoroth's singer is hilarious:

Gorogoroth drummer: There are a lot of rumours about Gaahl.
Interviewer: Are they true?
Gorgoroth drummer: Well no, of cou...well, maybe some of them.

[pentagrimes]

you all know Gaahl came out recently right?

[3_Fingers]

yeh we were playing a gig in wexford the night he came out. a fella wearing a ministry tee-shirt was basicly going insane about it, running around flectcher's shouting "BLACK METAL ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE GAY"

[Bob-NCxHC]

As someone I was talking about it said: "He is gay, you don't get more anti-Christian than that".

[pentagrimes]

yep.you'd think a bunch of folks in a genre where sodomising goats/angels/priests is common lyrical subject matter would have taken it a little better alright. still, the guy was wearing a Ministry tshirt so obviously he's kvlt as fvck.

[irrelevant dave]

Count Grishnaks webpage is so funny, he hates talking about what instruments he used on the earlier burzum albums.

[xSkx]

Nelly read lords of chaos. it will be better than what get copied and pasted in this thread.
yeah vargs views are fucked, he was a class guitarist i thought, love his vocals too.

[pentagrimes]

Nelly read lords of chaos. it will be better than what get copied and pasted in this thread.
.


I'm sorry, was that a crack at me?

Lords of Chaos is a great read and is interesting as a history of the major events in that scene in the early 90s, but it's by no means the last word on black metal, there was plenty going on at the time besides the stuff in that book..I think Moynihan also had an agenda of his own to push,which you'd have spotted if you're familiar with his work. It's a while since I read it, but I remember the book being pretty much Norway-centric,bar the odd nod to some of the neghboring Scandinavian countries.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Which brings about Impaled Nazarene. Great band me thinks.

[pentagrimes]

Never liked that band..
I'd make a strong argument that the best Black Metal of the time was the Greek Stuff:Rotting Christ, Varathron, Necromantia, etc..a lot of them turned to shit very quickly but musically it's the stuff I go back to more regularly than the Norwegian stuff.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Ach I think Impaled Nazarene are quite good.
But yeah, for some reason I find Norwegian stuff a bit boring on the long run. It's good for a while but it gets old fast, besides the fact that a lot of those bands sound too similar.

[CiaranNotion]

My little brother read Lords of Chaos and told me a shit load of fucked up stuff that happened, proper not cool dudes. :(
But yeah, Dark Funeral used to be one of my favorite bands, never got properly into Black Metal though, probably never will. Doesn't really appeal to me too much.

[irrelevant dave]

GET OUT OF THIS THREAD.

[CiaranNotion]

Nah i went through the buzz of starting to get into it a while ago like, used to be into Carpathian Forest, Mayhem and the likes, and downloaded some of Vargs earlier stuff, gave it a few listens but it never really stuck with me. I do think Darkthrones new cd is class though. Sorry Dave, i'll make it up to you somehow.

[John]

you all know Gaahl came out recently right?

How Ironic, Im sure his mates on no colours will love that
I watched the documentary about him he has to be the most egotistical person I have ever heard

[xGavx]

What's the big deal about him coming out?

That's a serious question, by the way. I'm not one of those PC dudes.

[John]

There are loads of racist/homophobic/ nazi bands and fans in the black metal community
Gorgoroth used to be on a neo nazi label too

[irrelevant dave]

Sound lad.

[pentagrimes]

What's the big deal about him coming out?

That's a serious question, by the way. I'm not one of those PC dudes.

Well aside from the fact that it makes him the first openly gay black metal musician in what can be fairly homophobic scene, there's the background of the fact that he's from the old Norwegian scene - one or two of his "colleagues" having been done for crimes against gay men.Notably Bard Faust, the original Emperor drummer, who killed a gay man.

In hardcore terms, imagine Ray Cappo coming out and admitting to secretly having a drug problem.

John, I'd be careful about saying there's "loads" of rascist/nazi bands.Therer are certainly some, yes, but loads..I would generally regard the NSBM bands as being something seperate from the rest of the black metal scene.It's kind of like saying because there are a few bands like One Life Crew knocking around, hardcore has "loads" of racist hardcore bands.

[Bob-NCxHC]

That still does not compare to what the implications of coming out in the black metal scene are. I would not be surprised if he hadn't received a good number of death threats. And when in the black metal scene you threaten someone of death you gotta watch your back.

[pentagrimes]

That still does not compare to what the implications of coming out in the black metal scene are. I would not be surprised if he hadn't received a good number of death threats. And when in the black metal scene you threaten someone of death you gotta watch your back.

Maybe in 1992 you would, people have ..eh...calmed down in the past decade or so. The whole "oh shit, we might go to jail" kinda helped with that.
Funnily enough, I was asking a friend if anyone heckled Gaahl about his sexuality when they played here. Perhaps unsurprisingly, noone did.

[John]

John, I'd be careful about saying there's "loads" of rascist/nazi bands.Therer are certainly some, yes, but loads..I would generally regard the NSBM bands as being something seperate from the rest of the black metal scene.It's kind of like saying because there are a few bands like One Life Crew knocking around, hardcore has "loads" of racist hardcore bands.

There are definitely a significant number of nsbm bands though, they are a small percentage of black metal bands as a whole but there are enough to assume there is a significant community out there
I would also say there are loads of racist hardcore/punk bands

[Bob-NCxHC]

Aye, now people have calmed down. But in the ex-Soviet block things are still fucked up. The whole black metal/nazi skinheads bunch are a bit too knife friendly.

[nelly]

There are definitely a significant number of nsbm bands though, they are a small percentage of black metal bands as a whole but there are enough to assume there is a significant community out there
I would also say there are loads of racist hardcore/punk bands

What racist hardcore bands are there? Not mentioning OLC.

[John]

Im not talking about hardcore/punk on "mainstream" hardcore labels but white power bands on resistance and the like, taking their cue from Skrewdriver but going from an Oi! sound to a more hardcore sound
Angry Arayns, Kremator, Blue eyed devils etc

[nelly]

Haha The Angry Arayns.

[John]

Yeah the names are generally as bad as the ideology
Im not sure why, but as this lad will tell you they love their (shit) hardcore
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/curtis-1.jpg

[xGlennx]

I'm going to have a mustache like that this Christmas.

[Sean-Lugsy]

How are you supposed to solve the maze on his forehead? There's no escape. Oh...

[nelly]

Thats Curtis Allgier. He definitely doesn't listen to Hatebreed. Hes dead now. Funny story. Or not so funny.

[pentagrimes]

What racist hardcore bands are there? Not mentioning OLC.



not necessarily hardcore but..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism

John, I know what you mean.My point really was that yeah, there are definitely bands who play stuff that's sonically "Black Metal" but has rascist/anti semitic etc lyrics, but I regard that as a subsection of a larger scene (plus,to a degree I'd argue that by its very definition, Black metal is an occult/satanic thing, so if you ain't singing about that, you ain't black metal) rather than a general sentiment in the same way that white power oi! bands aren't indicative of the punk scene in general.

[xGavx]

Dead? I heard he was just locked up forever.

[John]

Tell the story
I know that chap shot a prison guard when he was escaping, dont know much more except he must have easily blended in with the crowd when he escaped

[Bob-NCxHC]

Another example of a nazi hardcore band are Hate For Breakfast, that according to mates of mine that have been keeping an eye on their dodgy dealings are quite big in Europe.

Anyways, I think black metal has been, after oi!, the most vulnerable to nazi ideology because a lot of the original stuff was actually more directed to paganism and nazis seem to take on a keen interest in paganism and norse mythology.

[John]

not necessarily hardcore but..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism

John, I know what you mean.My point really was that yeah, there are definitely bands who play stuff that's sonically "Black Metal" but has rascist/anti semitic etc lyrics, but I regard that as a subsection of a larger scene (plus,to a degree I'd argue that by its very definition, Black metal is an occult/satanic thing, so if you ain't singing about that, you ain't black metal) rather than a general sentiment in the same way that white power oi! bands aren't indicative of the punk scene in general.

fair point

[pentagrimes]

Another example of a nazi hardcore band are Hate For Breakfast, that according to mates of mine that have been keeping an eye on their dodgy dealings are quite big in Europe.

Anyways, I think black metal has been, after oi!, the most vulnerable to nazi ideology because a lot of the original stuff was actually more directed to paganism and nazis seem to take on a keen interest in paganism and norse mythology.

I'd argue there's probably a more direct link in some areas of the neo-folk and industrial scenes but as I can't claim to be a fan of the former or as knowledgeable as I'd like to be on the latter I'm kinda wary of doing so... I'm very wary of jumping to conclusions or making generalisations. There's a big difference between writing about the history of your country or culture as an exploration or celebration of the past and doing it as some sort of call to arms. Knowing your history is a good thing. Wielding it as some sort of proof of superiority, not such a good thing.

Unfortunately, neo nazis have adopted various pagan/celtic/norse symbols and attatched their own meanings to them.which I can assure you, pisses off folks with an interest in history/mythology/paganism no end. The swastika is one of the oldest symbols in history and had no sinister meaning until Adolf and the boys robbed it.

jesus, this thread is getting intense.

I just like creepy nerds who wear funny makeup and sing about Satan like.

[Bob-NCxHC]

And I agree. But then again it is easy to see how the nazis would be interested and steered towards black metal: they see a bunch of guys making heavy music that has as its theme Norse mythology, paganism and references back to cultural aspects and history of a country so they obviously will feel in sync with it due to the special relationship between nazism and paganism and the fact that they mistaken pride in a country's cultural heritage as nationalism (in a bit the same way some people used to call Oi Polloi "nationalists" for singing about things related to the Scottish Celtic heritage).

Anyway, being creepy nerds talking about weird obscure stuff from the 90s rules. Fact.

[John]

So we all agree we dont like nazis yeah

[Bob-NCxHC]

Pretty much.

[CiaranNotion]

Wait, so correct me if i'm wrong, did you guys say a band isn't strictly Black Metal, if it doesn't have satanic lyrical content? So Burzum wouldn't be classed as Black Metal, because Varg Vikernes has pagan, aryan and almost nazi beliefs which are put across in his music, opposed to satanic ideology? Just wondering as it never occured to me that that was entirely the case, i always though it was musically the type of Metal played as well as pagan or folk themes (not strictly satanic) that defined it.

[John]

There is no almost about it, He was a nazi through and through, its possible thats why he killed Euronymous
Wasnt he planning on bombing some left wing organisations when he was arrested as well

[John]

Dont know how this thread got to 5 pages without anyone mentioning this gem
Black Metal (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmzFVDjVnM)

[pentagrimes]

Wait, so correct me if i'm wrong, did you guys say a band isn't strictly Black Metal, if it doesn't have satanic lyrical content? So Burzum wouldn't be classed as Black Metal, because Varg Vikernes has pagan, aryan and almost nazi beliefs which are put across in his music, opposed to satanic ideology? Just wondering as it never occured to me that that was entirely the case, i always though it was musically the type of Metal played as well as pagan or folk themes (not strictly satanic) that defined it.

Yeah, and this is sort of going back to Nelly's ideology question.Opinions tend to waver on this one. It's become a catch all term and I use it to describe non satanic bands myself as well obviously

Personally, I don't really regard something as black metal unless it has some sort of lyrical basis in the occult or satanism, or related topics - I'm not sure Paganism always ties in with that. Now bear in mind, that's a fairly wide spectrum, and it goes from the usual ccartoon shock value nonsense about slaughtering goats and killing nuns through to the more interesting, serious side of it - bands writing about the Qlipphoth or Kabbalah, or Aleister Crowley - not necessarily writing about some sort of Satan type figurehead, but just the darker,more sinister side of human spirituality. You have bands who opt for the more traditional writing about the black arts and performing rituals and that kind of thing, who see Satan as a sort of figure of personal power. You have the "orthodox" satanists such as Watain or Funeral Mist, whose approach is to sort of invert Christian biblical teachings from the point of view of the character of Satan in the bible and whose lyrics therefore read like psalms. There's the "anti cosmos" theory which is, in the simplest terms, the idea of total destruction and is connected to the Misantrhopic Luciferian Order. Then you have bands who have a more localised approach like for example the Mexican band Xibalba whose lyrics centre around the darker elements of the Aztec religion, or Negura Bunget who are from Romania and deal with the darker history of the region. I think as long as the lyrics cover the darker end of religious or spiritual beliefs, then it qualifies.

Lots of folks have different interpretations of what it means obviously, so I'm not going to piss on anyone else's idea of what it's about and i'd be just as likely to call a band who sings about nature or paganism "black metal" for convenience. I don't refer to bands with political lyrics as black metal though, as far as I'm concerned it has absolutely no place in black metal (or death metal for that matter)

[CiaranNotion]

Ahh sound, makes sense i suppose. This is all the most interesting shit.

[irrelevant dave]

I heard recently that there's some nazi punk band from out around the Dun Laighaire area

Edit: Off topic sorry.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Apparently, according to a website that talks about your tattooed nazi fella, Hatebreed are a "hardcore punk band popular amongst racist skinheads": http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/23/face-of-hate-curtis-allgier-explained/
[/off topic]

[CiaranNotion]

I heard recently that there's some nazi punk band from out around the Dun Laighaire area

Edit: Off topic sorry.

Yeah, they're called Goetia or something, they're from the Killiney area i think. Them and a load of their friends kicked the shit out of my friends at a party in Killiney before the summer. Dodgey shit.

[irrelevant dave]

Post sweet aryan pics

http://www.myspace.com/goetia88 this the same band?

[CiaranNotion]

Yeah i think it is, it's not the people i thought was in it though. And i was convinced they were a punk band. My bad.

[xGavx]

I really doubt they're nazis.

[Terrorstorm]

Emperor and Mirrorthrone are good. Occasionally Wedard are good as well. Not a fan of kvlt production though.

[Bob-NCxHC]

True.

But then again 88 in the name and a pic of a concentration camp mass grave are quite striking.

Maybe it's just one of the members that is a nazi and the other follows, or it's just a bunch of assorted idiots that is a faux-nazi just for the whole "fashion" part of it related to black metal.

[xGavx]

http://a566.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_33dbb51c6dfd25b9d74d9db6d7b0f115.jpg

[irrelevant dave]

Heard some story about some lads yelling white power at their gigs, they seem so young though. It's all a bit mad, let's talk about venom, awesome!

[Liamy]

LAY DOWN YOUR SOUL TO THE GODS OF ROCK N' ROLL

[Enderrr]

Haha. I never really listened to black metal but I always found reading up about it really interesting.

[CiaranNotion]

Heard some story about some lads yelling white power at their gigs, they seem so young though. It's all a bit mad, let's talk about venom, awesome!

Ah i think i know who you're talking about, there's a band called Anguished (\m/ 666) who are around 15 years old, and i've heard they paint swastikas onto their chest and go around pretending to be hard at Cabinteely gigs. But yet again i could be wrong, this is just stuff i've heard from kids at gigs.

[CiaranNotion]

And Gav, come on in those pictures the singer has a goat skull and his head is bleeding, they HAVE to be Nazis.

[Emmett]

Post sweet aryan pics

http://www.myspace.com/goetia88 this the same band?

I'm pretty sure the singer from that band lives about 2 minutes walk away from me.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Aye, the 'child' si defo not a nazi. But the rest of them look like they could be nazis, especially the singer.
It would be surprising if no one of them was. As I said, the number 88, the background pic and the Odinic runes all add up.

[xrobbedgex]

Heard some story about some lads yelling white power at their gigs, they seem so young though. It's all a bit mad, let's talk about venom, awesome!

BLACK FUNKY METAL.

[Andy]

I'm pretty sure the singer from that band lives about 2 minutes walk away from me.

I guess its your responsibility to kill him then.

[pentagrimes]

Aye, the 'child' si defo not a nazi. But the rest of them look like they could be nazis, .

wait a second,I'm looking at the drummer..long hair?check.beard?check.black clothes?check.
wow, I could be one too apparently.

they're kids.I wouldn't take them seriously.

these lads are dodge though
www.myspace.com/agaaraath

[Tom]

Never gave bm a chance myself. Not really a fan of the vocal style.
The few burzum tunes ive heard remind me a bit of HHIG though.

[martin]

Ah i think i know who you're talking about, there's a band called Anguished (\m/ 666) who are around 15 years old, and i've heard they paint swastikas onto their chest and go around pretending to be hard at Cabinteely gigs. But yet again i could be wrong, this is just stuff i've heard from kids at gigs.
there are still gig in cabinteely!?

[Andy]

wait a second,I'm looking at the drummer..long hair?check.beard?check.black clothes?check.
wow, I could be one too apparently.

they're kids.I wouldn't take them seriously.

these lads are dodge though
www.myspace.com/agaaraath

I saw that dude stab a kid who had Down's Syndrome before.

[Emmett]

He ate some of that kid too and said it didn't taste nice.

[irrelevant dave]

Their influences are the best thing ever.

[CiaranNotion]

there are still gig in cabinteely!?

Yeah, there's still gigs in Cabinteely football club, and i'm pretty sure there was one in the Ballybrack community center not so long ago too.

Edit, also a lad i know called Ross is in a Black Metal band called Nocturnal Holocaust. I've never checked them out properly, but i think they wear the whole corpse paint and all.

[CiaranNotion]

http://www.myspace.com/nocturnalwar

There you go.
"True Irish Black Metal"

[pentagrimes]

I'll keep this brief: a complete list of worthwhile black metal (or sort of black metal) bands in Ireland right now:

Slidhr
Beithioch
Rebirth of Nefast
Altar of Plagues
Siorai Geimhreadh
some of the Chambercraft stuff

in the unlikely event they ever resurface, Sol Axis would be top of that list, but I don't see that happening unfortunately.

You could argue Primordial, but I'm pretty sure the lads wouldn't really refer to themselves as that nowadays.

there's a pile of crappy generic black metal in Ireland at the moment, most of which is competently played but poorly thought out, hilarious clicheed, and just plain lacking in any kind of substance.

edit:I'm adding these guys to the list - www.myspace.com/templeofopposites

[xGavx]

http://music.ign.com/articles/941/941881p1.html

[pentagrimes]

pretty good beginner's guide, though I'd replace Immortal and Satyricon with Beherit and Blasphemy.And Venom should be on that list instead of Nachtmystium.

[martin]

http://www.myspace.com/nocturnalwar

There you go.
"True Irish Black Metal"
THE DRUMMER FROM DISTRIBUTOR IS IN THIS BAND!!!!!!!!!!

[3_Fingers]

we gigged with the lads from noturnal halocaust a few times. lovely lads just not into them.
the deepest id go into black metal personally would be abit of Old man's Child and Behemoth

[Andy]

Yo, Behemoth aren't black metal. Slidhr are fucking awesome, so much in fact that I think someone nicked my tape. Also, I know you wren't mad on the cd Jamie but the Myrkyr 7" is amazing.

[pentagrimes]

Yo, Behemoth aren't black metal. Slidhr are fucking awesome, so much in fact that I think someone nicked my tape. Also, I know you wren't mad on the cd Jamie but the Myrkyr 7" is amazing.

Behemoth's demo and first album or two were very much Black metal.Never was a fan though.

Andy, did I really say I didn't like Myrkyr's cd?Was I drunk at the time?I love it!And yes, the 7" is amazing..I can cd-ize the Slidhr stuff for you if you need it to boss.

[CiaranNotion]

THE DRUMMER FROM DISTRIBUTOR IS IN THIS BAND!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah that's the lad, redhead Ross that used to always go to Paddys Hall gigs. He's in about 5,039,294,901,324 different bands. That's just a rough estimate though.

[Blair]

Dunno if this is the thread for it, but someone recommend me something that sounds like Ashes Against The Grain by Agalloch please.

[David]

I was going to bump this thread.
Currently listening to Moëvöt after Les Légions Noires was mentioned in the Trash Talk thread. Had an interesting chat about Black Metal with Ciaran on the train yesterday.

[Liamy]

That's mental, I was just listening to Moëvöt earlier. Been listening to a lot of LLN stuff recently.

Blair, I'm not really into Agalloch but maybe Drudkh or Wolves in the Throne Room would be your best bet for that style of black metal.

[pentagrimes]

I..uh..
what now?

[Eddie]

Drudkh are so good.

[pentagrimes]

Did I sell you a Drudkh shirt Eddie?

[Eddie]

Nah, you just gave me it. :)
That was a trillion years ago and it still barely fits.

[Blair]

Yeah, I've got Two Hunters and Black Cascade by Wolves in the Throne Room already, I'll check out Drudkh, cheers.

[irrelevant dave]

Such a quality band.

[Majkel]

Wolves in the Throne Room are awesome, much like all the other BM bands on Southern Lord like Striborg or Glorior Belli,

[pentagrimes]

forget it.you'll figure it out.

Anyhow, Myrkr yeah?

[Andy]

Yes to Myrkr. I prefer the Slidhir tape though.

[SamhainGrim]

I am putting out a zine hopefully by next month, Grim Winds, that will have interviews with Avsky and Arkha Sva.

[moose]

Should I tell my Watain story in this thread?

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs120.snc3/16755_170404791740_617881740_3404829_3051252_n.jpg

[Eddie]

Nah...

[Eddie]

Only messing go on

[CiaranNotion]

I was going to bump this thread.
Currently listening to Moëvöt after Les Légions Noires was mentioned in the Trash Talk thread. Had an interesting chat about Black Metal with Ciaran on the train yesterday.

Man, that conversation was so refreshing. Poor Ross hadn't a clue what was going on.
After the gig yesterday I went straight home and pumped myself full of Dark Funeral. So good.
Someone tell me some good Black Metal to check out, please.

[DERRY]

http://www.mindovermetal.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/darkthrone-dark-thrones-and-black-flags.jpg

[Eddie]

Listen to Deathspell Omega.

[pentagrimes]

[After the gig yesterday I went straight home and pumped myself full of Dark Funeral. So good.
Someone tell me some good Black Metal to check out, please.

Abigail Williams,Bleeding Through, Cradle of Filth.

[Andy]

Demi Burger.


What's the Watain story Moose?

[Liamy]

Someone tell me some good Black Metal to check out, please.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6U2aFILJH7o/SBjyg56-8bI/AAAAAAAAAfM/LI19nsR_XCU/s320/f3612a09ddcda6239f7e4af4a93204e9.jpg

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=91NYJQZS

[pentagrimes]

Liamy - what's that avatar?

[Liamy]

Death in June.

[pentagrimes]

ah right..which record?

[Andy]

I would suggest:

Craft
Watain
Bone Awl
Deathspell Omega
Darkthrone

Then just have a bit of a dig yourself.

[Liamy]

It's not from a record cover or anything, I just came across it on the internet. Might be a fan-made thing. I love Death in June so much.

[pentagrimes]

I'd make it clear that if you're unfamiliar with them, pre- "Si Monumentum.." Deathspell Omega is essentially a different band to the DSO of now. Both are equally fine with me.

I really think though that you should start with Blasphemy,Von, Sarcofago, Bathory and Beherit before you delve any further.

[CiaranNotion]

[After the gig yesterday I went straight home and pumped myself full of Dark Funeral. So good.
Someone tell me some good Black Metal to check out, please.

Abigail Williams,Bleeding Through, Cradle of Filth.

Haha, stop messin', you.
Cheers, lads.

[Majkel]

You should also check out Xasthur and Leviathan.

[pentagrimes]

Actually people should check out Fuil Na Seanchoille, which is Cormy who posts here sometimes.

[xSkx]

Ciaran id reccomend,
Immortal, Dissection, old Satyricon, Marduk, Venom and Sigh

[moose]

What's the genre for the likes of Teitenblood, Raped God 666 and Morbosidad? That's the kinda shit I like.

[xSkx]

Morbosidad are unreal, i saw them live burning bibles and stuff, bullet belts everywhere, they had no merch or cds with them though sucked.
i think they are mexican, the spanish made it sound more evil.

[SamhainGrim]

These hardcore dudes put out this black metal demo, band is Horrid Cross, and it rules but I read it described as black metal for people who don't listen to me which is true enough because the person who told me about it doesn't. It is pretty crusty lo-fi stuff and I guess would maybe be a good bridge into black metal.

[Joe]

I hate myself after reading the first post, got worse as I went on. Goodbye band in-jokes

[pentagrimes]

These hardcore dudes put out this black metal demo, band is Horrid Cross, and it rules but I read it described as black metal for people who don't listen to me which is true enough because the person who told me about it doesn't. It is pretty crusty lo-fi stuff and I guess would maybe be a good bridge into black metal.

Honestly, and this isn't a joke or a pop at you, that band is fucking awful. Fucking awful.It's not black metal, it's just punk rock played by people who are trying to rebel against the popular idea of punk rock. It's bands like this that are the reason American black metal is generally (with exceptions, obviously) regarded as an absolute joke by non-Americans, and always has been. It's not taken in any way seriously or as anything other than a novelty.

There shouldn't be such a thing as "black metal for people who don't like black metal". If you don't like it,you're not under any obligation to try. That goes for all music.I've no desire, for example to listen to a band who play "jazz for people who don't like jazz". Fuck that.

As you've probably worked out by now, I'm quite particular and protective of BM generally. I lived through the whole early 90s scene and have seen how,much like death metal, it's become watered down and robbed of any substance or atmosphere.

[SamhainGrim]

These hardcore dudes put out this black metal demo, band is Horrid Cross, and it rules but I read it described as black metal for people who don't listen to me which is true enough because the person who told me about it doesn't. It is pretty crusty lo-fi stuff and I guess would maybe be a good bridge into black metal.

Honestly, and this isn't a joke or a pop at you, that band is fucking awful. Fucking awful.It's not black metal, it's just punk rock played by people who are trying to rebel against the popular idea of punk rock. It's bands like this that are the reason American black metal is generally (with exceptions, obviously) regarded as an absolute joke by non-Americans, and always has been. It's not taken in any way seriously or as anything other than a novelty.

There shouldn't be such a thing as "black metal for people who don't like black metal". If you don't like it,you're not under any obligation to try. That goes for all music.I've no desire, for example to listen to a band who play "jazz for people who don't like jazz". Fuck that.

As you've probably worked out by now, I'm quite particular and protective of BM generally. I lived through the whole early 90s scene and have seen how,much like death metal, it's become watered down and robbed of any substance or atmosphere.

I can see where you're coming from, not that I lived through the 90s scene or whatever, but this is a hardcore forum or so I thought and Horrid Cross was by hardcore dudes and I was just pointing out a possible gateway band. And I liked them but that is just me, I wasn't ever saying they were actual black metal either.

[pentagrimes]

I just read that Keep of Kalessin are entering the Eurovision.

Absolutely fucking atrocious.

[Eddie]

These hardcore dudes put out this black metal demo, band is Horrid Cross, and it rules but I read it described as black metal for people who don't listen to me which is true enough because the person who told me about it doesn't. It is pretty crusty lo-fi stuff and I guess would maybe be a good bridge into black metal.

Honestly, and this isn't a joke or a pop at you, that band is fucking awful. Fucking awful.It's not black metal, it's just punk rock played by people who are trying to rebel against the popular idea of punk rock. It's bands like this that are the reason American black metal is generally (with exceptions, obviously) regarded as an absolute joke by non-Americans, and always has been. It's not taken in any way seriously or as anything other than a novelty.

There shouldn't be such a thing as "black metal for people who don't like black metal". If you don't like it,you're not under any obligation to try. That goes for all music.I've no desire, for example to listen to a band who play "jazz for people who don't like jazz". Fuck that.

Yes.

[Andy]

Villains are a great american black metal band. Ive never heard these horrid cross lads though.

[kayleigh]

These hardcore dudes put out this black metal demo, band is Horrid Cross, and it rules but I read it described as black metal for people who don't listen to me which is true enough because the person who told me about it doesn't. It is pretty crusty lo-fi stuff and I guess would maybe be a good bridge into black metal.

Fucking amazing band. I got their tape and one of the guys zines a few months ago. I could dig out his e-mail if anyone wants to get a tape off him. I think a couple of them are in Nazi dust as well.

[Bob-NCxHC]

I just read that Keep of Kalessin are entering the Eurovision.

Absolutely fucking atrocious.

Might be just me, but I always thought they never were that good to start with. Regardless, it's going to be a proper laugh if they get to go.

The question is: after Finland sent Lordi and Norway might send Keep of Kalessin, who could Sweden get?

[holyhell]

all Xasthur stuff is excellent..
Ipssisimuss is great as well and for fans of WOTR check out KRALLICE, such a great band..

Slidhr split with Rebirth Of Nefast is damn good as well. Myrkr has some new stuff and should be out very soon. Theres also another project comin from these dudes and should have some news soon.

Don't want to start another thread so Liamy, if you like Death In June check out Of Wand And The Moon, Der Blutharsch (album When Did The Wonderland End) if you like Boyd Rice/NON, Current 93, Sol Invictus, Deutsch Nepal..
few weeks ago i missed Schloss Tegal gig :(

Actually The Grey Wolves, Con-Don, Slogun and many more had a big show in Birmingham last weekend..

[pentagrimes]

Slidhr split with Rebirth Of Nefast is damn good as well. Myrkr has some new stuff and should be out very soon. Theres also another project comin out of these dudes and should have some news soon.



Yeah, Haud Mundus. Excellent stuff.

Power Electronics is a whole other discussion

[Liamy]

Don't want to start another thread so Liamy, if you like Death In June check out Of Wand And The Moon, Der Blutharsch (album When Did The Wonderland End) if you like Boyd Rice/NON, Current 93, Sol Invictus, Deutsch Nepal..

Thanks, I've heard all of those though. Right now I'm all about Cult of Youth. Fucking incredible.

[pentagrimes]

I've always been baffled by the whole neo-folk thing, but then I don't like "normal" folk either. Interesting characters behind it certainly, but musically I don't get it. The early DIJ and C93 I love (and the newest C93 is a corker), and Changes (Liamy, you should check these out if you haven't already) but that's it.

Boyd Rice, on the other hand, I have lots of time for. I don't necessarily agree with much of his schtick, but he's definitely an interesting and amusing dude. And NON fucking rule.

[Scorched]

If you haven't, get newest Fen and Panopticon. To everyone.

[SamhainGrim]

Fucking amazing band. I got their tape and one of the guys zines a few months ago. I could dig out his e-mail if anyone wants to get a tape off him. I think a couple of them are in Nazi dust as well.
Do you think he'd still have any copies of the tape or zine?

[holyhell]

Im not much into Cult Of Youth as most of the songs seem to be the same and nothing new much when it comes to that genre, still have some record at home..
Not sure but as far as i remember the guy behind Sol Invictus is vegan..
I still preffer neofolk to the new martial scene which is too electronic for me.. preffered old raw martial with neofolk and a tiny bit of some fucked up noise/electronics. Still like Rome, Arditi, Blood Axis, Fire & Ice..
the very old Der Blutharsch was absolutely amazing, mentioned "When did.." with III and IV is so good.

When it comes to NON/Boyd Rice i think his shit written book NO is worth a read, but he's not a writer so the way its written is actually horrible. But its good for ignorants who love to accuse people of being a nazi without understanding why they use such symbolic and what are their real beliefs behind this whole imaginery

[pentagrimes]

NO is definitely worth a read alright. A lot of it, to be fair, is just common sense though.
It can basically be summarised as "there are too many mindless sheep in the world". Gee Boyd, you don't say...many of them are NON fans I'd be happy to say.

As far as the Nazi thing goes..Having an interest in something isn't necessarily the same as supporting it. Andyeah, he's played that card in the past I think to provoke people more than anything, and there are definitely things he's said and done I have no interest in justifying or defending, but I'm not sure how much of it is reactionary and symbolic and how much is genuine.
Sonically, some of the Non stuff though is absolutely mindblowing. "God and Beast" in particular

[Liamy]

God and Beast is incredible. That album he did with Douglas Pierce is really good too. I don't really know that much about his ideology or whatever but he definitely seems to have some interesting ideas.

[Majkel]

Been enjoying French BM lately, mostly Amesoeurs and Alcest. New split with Les Discrets is definitely worth checking out.

[pentagrimes]

I like that stuff, but t's not black metal . It's played by people who have played in Black Metal, but Alcest is indie rock.You'll be telling me Jesu and My Bloody Valentine are Black Metal next I suppose?

Anyhow, the Arizmenda tape might be the best BM I've heard this year.

[Liamy]

Have you seen this (http://funeralstench.blogspot.com/) blog yet Jamie? It's got some great stuff on it.

[pentagrimes]

Cheers for the heads up, hadn't seen that

[moose]

Have you seen this shite?

http://blackmetaltheory.blogspot.com/

[pentagrimes]

Yes I have.And I have no opinion on it whatsoever.

[Tav]

I was told today that apparently Darkthrone have a new album out next year. That cheered me up considerably.

[pentagrimes]

Have you seen this (http://funeralstench.blogspot.com/) blog yet Jamie? It's got some great stuff on it.

This is some serious Youth Attack Black Metal bullshit right here.Odd to see Torturekammer on there.

[Majkel]

I like that stuff, but t's not black metal . It's played by people who have played in Black Metal, but Alcest is indie rock.

Well, stuff like Tristesse Hivernale by him is pretty much Black Metal. It's true though, it got less BM with later releases.

[pentagrimes]

Yeah the initial demos definitely were black metal but there's none of that in there any more. He's said it himself.I'd rather listen to old Peste Noire anyhow.

[Liamy]

This is some serious Youth Attack Black Metal bullshit right here.

I live for that kind of bullshit.

[pentagrimes]

I will sort out some sort of decent black metal mix for you to rid you of your burden so.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Ok, I am a complete ignoramus on the subject but would like to get to know more. Would quite like some suggestion generally for sludgy or atmospheric black metal stuff and also black metal stuff with a sort of folk vibe to it, sort of along the lines of Peste Noire.

I repeat, I am an ignoramus, so include everything, especially the stuff you'd think is quite obvious.

[pentagrimes]

No.

[pentagrimes]

And by "No" I mean "Archgoat and Blasphemy"

[Tav]

Darkthrone.

[garyoak]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/untilthelighttakesus/

[Majkel]

Ok, I am a complete ignoramus on the subject but would like to get to know more. Would quite like some suggestion generally for sludgy or atmospheric black metal stuff and also black metal stuff with a sort of folk vibe to it, sort of along the lines of Peste Noire.

I repeat, I am an ignoramus, so include everything, especially the stuff you'd think is quite obvious.

And since you're in Poland right now listen to some Mgła and Szron.

[holyhell]

Mgla is awesome..
i still prefer Furia - Grudzine za grudniem.. i love that record..

HAUD MUNDUS and WORMLUST split is out now.. its fuckin deadly more experimental, noise, drone.. wish it was a bit longer but dont mind repeat that split on and on

[Roger]

Every time I see this thread I just want to post this:

YouTube- Black metal prank call

Haha.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Ahahah that is a classic!

But will check out the Polish black metal, even though despite all the talk about NSBM being massive in Poland I am yet to see a black metaller.

[Majkel]

I wouldn't worry much about that to be honest, NSBM is the most over/misused tag ever anyways. Just stay away from the obvious stuff like Antisemitex or Graveland.

[Liamy]

Graveland rules.

[Tav]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/Tavrail/1494.jpg

[Majkel]

Graveland rules.

May be, but it's still pretty much NSBM. They had a split with Honor who were top dogs in the Polish right wing music.

[Liamy]

Whatever. Appreciating music or art for aesthetic reasons isn't necessarily an endorsement of its underlying ideology.

[Majkel]

I never said it is, I kind of like artists like Satanic Warmaster or Burzum myself, although latter's ideology doesn't really translate into his music. I was just stating the fact that they're right wing to Bob who pointed out about NSBM being big in Polish metal.

[Bob-NCxHC]

Whatever. Appreciating music or art for aesthetic reasons isn't necessarily an endorsement of its underlying ideology.

Well, fair enough if there is no spillage of the ideology in the music. But I think there is a bit of a problem when there is a clear nazi message in the music.

Still, I will agree that black metal aesthetics are very very interesting and fascinating.

[pentagrimes]

Whatever. Appreciating music or art for aesthetic reasons isn't necessarily an endorsement of its underlying ideology.
This. But at the same time, if you're actually paying money for that shit...

[Majkel]

But at the same time, if you're actually paying money for that shit...

I'll stick it to the right wingers by seeding Absurd's discography on torrents then.

[pentagrimes]

Aprt from anything else, Absurd are, and always have been, a load of bollocks. Even if they were the most left wing band on earth, they're still terrible. Luckily, they make NSBM even easier to dislike.

[Majkel]

That's true, they're a bunch of scumbags too, like some of the members murdered a kid.

[holyhell]

But Graveland is one of the shittest bands ever! and i gotta disagree with you Liamy, cuz they have totally nazi lyrics and they're bunch of idiots.. same with Honor super shit band.. i liked split Adam(from Konkwista 88) & Olaf (from Honor), that was acoustic, but mostly becaue it was really funny to listen to the lyrics..

[pentagrimes]

Fuck every other band in this thread. Listen to Urfaust.

[Liamy]

http://www.diabolicalconquest.com/reviews/graveland-thousand_swords_coverartwork.jpg

Great album.

[pentagrimes]

Liamy - I'm sorting you Black Metal mix in the next day or so. Anyone else who wants it pm me, or I'll just post a link here or something.

[moose]

Just stick it on your blog and post a link. Obviously you'll have to write a wee introduction too.

[Majkel]

I downloaded a couple of good demos from that Funeral Stench blogspot, thanks for posting it here. Also yeah, a mix would be cool.

[David]

I'd like a mix to listen to yeah.

[Bob-NCxHC]

A mix would be most certainly appreciated.

[pentagrimes]

I will perform the necessary rites as a fist in the face of god on Xmas day.Or something.

[nelly]

Then you have bands who have a more localised approach like for example the Mexican band Xibalba whose lyrics centre around the darker elements of the Aztec religion.

Now thats some interesting shit.

[Liamy]

http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/0/1/8/10183.jpg

Look at how awesome that is. Great album.

[nelly]

Link it up!

[Liamy]

http://rapidshare.com/files/28605070/Xibalba_-_Ah_Dzam_Poop_Ek_dead-metalvault.blogspot.com.rar

[pentagrimes]

Quality album.

This black metal mix is gonna have to wait for a day or two.It'll be worth it though.

also, side note - getting books about the Occult for Xmas is the best.

[Liamy]

What book did you get?

[pentagrimes]

Right so.

BLACK CHRISTMAS (http://www.mediafire.com/?zznnyzzjdnc)

1.Katharsis - Eucharistick Funeral
2.Black Majesty - Flesh Altar Unfold
3.Sathanas - Blood Sacrifice
4.Arizmenda - Beyond the Shadows of Emptiness and Nothingness
5.The Arts - Gates (token Mark McCoy related band for the YABM gimps ;) )
6.Ruins of Beverast - God's Ensanguined Bestiaries
7.Svartidaudi - Seer of Perdition
8.Toil -Porcelain Maggots
9.Ovskum - Atto II part 5
10.Luror - Already Dead
11.Incarnator - Untitled
12.Azhubham Haani - Where Death has Reared Itself a Throne
13.Bathory - The Return of Darkness and Evil
14.Helwetti - Disciples Twelve are Death
15.Nidhoggr - Thou Shalt Burn At Our Stacker

There were absolutely no decision factors as to what went on this comp besides it was what I felt like listening to at the time, so it's a random mix of old, new, epic, bestial, melodic and harsh. Most of my BM stuff I own on physical formats, so this is just stuff I had on mp3.It's not meant to be any kind of "Introduction" or "Definitive guide" to black metal. Consequently, if you want further information about any of the bands, just google them or something.

[Liamy]

I haven't heard of a lot of those bands before, looking forward to listening to this. Cheers.